From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Wed Jun 4 11:48:46 1997 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 09:04:28 -0600 From: Howard Schultz Organization: Harrison School District 2 To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Subject: BMW: Thank you High Plains BMW X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Reply-To: Howard Schultz During the return ride from the Pres. lunch in Hillsboro, Texas I needed a front tire to insure a fun filled and safe ride back to Colorado Springs. Mike Millsap and Steve Aikens brought me to some form of sanity because I was trying to talk myself into riding home with the tread bars showing. I have a new front tire in my garage and I didn't want to buy one on the road. Ronnie Fry opened his shop and a new tire was fitted. He also has this BMW throttle lock used on police bikes from Germany. I will be putting it on my r1100rs and giving it a try. Steve Aikens gave a testimonial for this lock and that was good enough for me. I didn't know BMW made a throttle lock for the bike. Thanks again to Ronnie Fry and Jim at High Plains for working on their day off. -- Howard Schultz Colorado Springs, Co. 1994 R1100rs, 1993 R100gs/pd, 1993 Ducati 750ss, 1994 Honda xr250r Wife's bikes (1997 F650, 1995 R100rt, 1995 Honda xr200r) From BMWmcdudeNoSpam@NoSpamaol.com Tue Jun 24 21:54:12 1997 From: BMWmcdudeNoSpam@NoSpamaol.com Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:53:38 -0400 (EDT) To: thundtNoSpam@NoSpamslack.net Subject: Re: BMW: re: New K1100LT, questions and suggestions Thomas: Thank you for your response << what is the clank/clank ABS test? >> that makes sense. Either that or you keep forgetting to put the kickstand up :-) nope, the bike won't even start with the stand down. Maybe the fender extension? (maybe 3-4" piece of plastic) But I thought LTs come with that... Or maybe they're holes for the big German license plates? Ehh nope,nope and I don't thinks so, maybe a reflector or something? Where does one get the Flip-a-lever? This is a cruise-control gadget, right? I need one. >> I got mine trough an add in the MOA magazine, nice people, not cheap but then what is on a BMW. Total price came to $89, with a $30 credit when you return the little bracket on the handlebar/switch assembly that they drilled and tapped ( exchange ). $35 for the flipalever, $20 for the hole drilled in a new bracket $30 deposit on the new bracket they send you. When you get ready to do it contact me and I'll give you a few installation tips. ( you have to pull the heated grip wires out of the handle bars and back in ) Schneider's inc 109 River Street, PO Box 158 Superior Montana 59872 # 406-822-4811 Good luck Hans St.Petersburg Florida From T.R.Evans-M.D.NoSpam@NoSpamworldnet.att.net Thu Jun 26 01:51:51 1997 To: thundtNoSpam@NoSpamslack.net From: "Terence R. Evans, M.D." Subject: Re: cruise control Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 05:51:16 +0000 At 05:56 PM 6/24/97 +0000, you wrote: > >|>Make sure you've got a throttle friction device. >| >|Absolutely! The BEST are the under $10 screws ;-) > >Please elaborate. I need one :-) For K-bikes prior to '93 and all K-75s you can get usually from your shop a Throttle Lock Screw. Cost? $7-8.95 - It fits inder you rt throttle assembly and you can turn it so it just stiffens up the throttle to full lock - mine's been in the same position and never touched since since 1992! Of course, if you have any other bikes, you have to pay more for less and those contraptions that fit inside the end of your handlebars - get to dealer and ask what they have or can get - they are still advertised at Competition Acces or Capital Cycle. The Snieder's Flip-a-lever for almost $30 bux does the same as the former above but can damage your tank. This is a case of the cheapest, simplest solution is the best, IMO. Good luck. Again, if your dealer doesn't have,call around several nearby - toss them ten bucks and tell'em to throw it in a envelope to ya! __________T_E_R_R_Y_____M_i_a_m_i____ if AT&T bounces you, forward to alt. add.: tevansmdNoSpam@NoSpamjuno.com From hschultzNoSpam@NoSpamclsp1.clsp.uswest.net Mon Jun 30 13:46:02 1997 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:40:31 -0600 From: Howard Schultz Reply-To: hschultzNoSpam@NoSpamclsp.uswest.net To: thundtNoSpam@NoSpamslack.net Subject: Re: Throttle lock Please let us know how the throttle lock works out. I, for one, > have been thinking about one, and would probably prefer a BMW > solution. > > o > -_/L> Tom Hundt > http://www.slack.net/~thundt/mc.htm > ()7=() '86 K100RS San Francisco CA W=+1-510/873-5440 Tom, I put the throttle lock on and went to the National in Texas. Used the throttle lock and found that it is easier to use than the bar end locks. The kill switch doesn't get in the way and you can adjust the setting with one hand. I can keep enough pressure on the throttle so that my speed doesn't change will I set the lock. I can recommend it. The old style lock is for sale. -- Howard Schultz Colorado Springs, Co. 1994 R1100RS, 1993 R100GS/PD, 1993 Ducati 750SS, 1994 Honda xr250r From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Fri Jul 11 04:33:04 1997 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:21:17 +1000 To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Graham Smith Subject: Re: BMW: Throttle Locks - Bar End - WHY? Reply-To: Graham Smith At 09:36 10/07/97 -0400, Mark Flynn wrote: >I'm looking for the company that sells the Bar-End throttle locks. I'm still so amazed you guys in the US still insist on these Bar-End and "Flip-A-Lever" throttle locks. They are (IMHO) dangerous and cumbersome compared to the SOS Vista Cruise throttle locks we use here in Aust. I have been trying to gt a digital picture of one for months now, but this last post has spurred me to respond with text only. Nearly EVERY serious BMW rider here in Australia has the "Vista-Cruise" fitted, and if not that brand a similar unit. Even the Police bikes have them! I did find them at: http://www.accwhse.com/sos.htm#Throttle Cable But no picture unfortunately. I'm sure we use the one made for the GoldWing with a small modification, but geez they're good. I'll steal Ron's Digital Camera over the weekend and get a picture of one. You guys obviously don't know what your missin! Regards, Graham. =========== gsmithNoSpam@NoSpamdynamite.com.au ===================== / (?) \ Graham Smith (0) (0) PO Box 851 Canberra Australia 2601 \ \ / BELDIVERS SCUBA CLUB %\-/% ACT BMW MCC - '90 K1 (Blue & Yellow) %%% '88 Lotus Esprit Turbo (Pearl) ======== http://www.dynamite.com.au/~gsmith/ =========== From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Fri Jul 11 13:18:38 1997 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:59:38 -0700 To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Bob Lawes Subject: Re: BMW: Throttle Locks - Bar End - WHY? Reply-To: Bob Lawes Graham Smith (Aust.) wrote: >I'm still so amazed you guys in the US still insist on these Bar-End and >"Flip-A-Lever" throttle locks. They are (IMHO) dangerous and cumbersome >compared to the SOS Vista Cruise throttle locks we use here in Aust. I >have been trying to gt a digital picture of one for months now, but this >last post has spurred me to respond with text only. > >Nearly EVERY serious BMW rider here in Australia has the "Vista-Cruise" >fitted, and if not that brand a similar unit. Even the Police bikes have them! Hey Guy, my F650G/S has a "Super Vista" throttle lock. Works like a charm, but may be the only throttle lock here in the US that will work with the F650 throttle. At least it is the only one that I have been able to find. Bob Lawes - Whidbey Island - F650 - IBMWR - Golden Idiot - BOOF #9 AMA, RA, MOA, WSBMWR, BMW Club of Northern California From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Fri Jul 11 18:43:28 1997 From: "Bob Oelschlager" Organization: University of North Texas To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:25:39 CST-6CDT Subject: Re: BMW: Throttle Locks - Bar End - WHY? Reply-To: "Bob Oelschlager" Uh, lemmie get this straight. Jus cuz everyone else around you is doing a thing, then it's the only "right" way to go? Appears to me to be a bit severe. IMHO, the "right" throttle lock for a person is the one he/she preferrs. In many cases it is the throttle lock that is available, nicely blister packed on the dealer's shelf. Perhaps that is your situation, I dunno. I've been sellin' Vista Cruise and Vanda Cruise ('member that one) for a very very long time. They are good, very prolific in the marketplace, fit damn near everything and have a good track record. Until I went to the National in the Great Nation-State of Texas (not quite as big as Australia or even Alaska) I hadn't seen any of the "bar end" throttle locks. I'll say this: I liked what I saw at the national. The bar end units seemed to be nice pieces of hardware and long lasting, like a BMW accessory should be. If someone wants a bar end unit, let 'em buy one. It doesn't mean they don't have a clue, just that they want something different. Different is good, too. BobbyO ********************************************************** Robert Oehlschlager Internet: BOBBYONoSpam@NoSpamABN.UNT.EDU Office of Admissions University of North Texas PO Box 13797 Voice: (817) 565-2681 Denton, TX 76201-6797 (817) 565-3330 USA FAX: (817) 565-2408 ********************************************************** From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sat Jul 12 12:10:11 1997 Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:59:26 -0500 To: graham smith From: Jonathan Hutchins Subject: Re: BMW: Throttle Locks - Bar End - WHY? Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Jonathan Hutchins At 06:21 PM 7/11/97 +1000, Graham Smith wrote: >I'm still so amazed you guys in the US still insist on these Bar-End and >"Flip-A-Lever" throttle locks. They are (IMHO) dangerous and cumbersome >compared to the SOS Vista Cruise throttle locks we use here in Aust. I >have been trying to gt a digital picture of one for months now, but this >last post has spurred me to respond with text only. I love the SOS style locks, but haven't been able to find one to fit an '85 K-100. Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse says they don't list one for the BMW K-100, but they have a universal one... More details would be appreciated! Jonathan Hutchins hutchinsNoSpam@NoSpamsky.net The Wolf's Den BBS (FIDO 1:280/76) FAA A&P, PPSEL '85 K100 (LT) From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sun Jul 13 00:39:36 1997 From: LitlbikeNoSpam@NoSpamaol.com Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 23:49:40 -0400 (EDT) To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Subject: Re: BMW: Speaking of throttle locks... Reply-To: LitlbikeNoSpam@NoSpamaol.com Two different types of throttle locks are available for the R 1100 RT. One replaces the bar end with a serrated collar that increases friction on the throttle as you turn it, the other clamps over the throttle and holds it in place when you increase the tension. To my knowledge there is no actual cruise control available. Barry Keenly 95 Sportster 97 R 1100 RT Iron Butt Assoc. Ventura Hog Chapter From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sun Jul 20 11:37:01 1997 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:23:17 -0500 To: Dean Goldgar , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Ed Grant Subject: Re: BMW: throttle lock or cruise control Reply-To: Ed Grant >Go for the Throttlemeister (sp?). I saw it for $100USD in Texas, >(up from $90USD) and it's got 10 times the internal guts and quality. >Also "sets" in the same direction of rotation as the throttle (counter >clock-wise) and releases on roll off. Just grip it with the little finger >side >of your hand. > >Might have a touch better support. Wouldn't be hard to do. > >YMMV > >Mike Nolan I second that opinion. My Suzuki RF900R now sports bar end weights that double as a throttle lock from Throttlemeister and it is first class. Ed Grant Ed Grant -- Abilene, Texas bikes 1981 BMW R100RT / 1994 Suzuki RF900R cages 1995 VW VR6 GTI / 1974 Lotus Europa TC From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sun Jul 20 10:18:55 1997 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 09:49:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Dean Goldgar , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Mike Nolan Subject: Re: BMW: throttle lock or cruise control Reply-To: Mike Nolan At 12:03 AM 7/20/97 -0700, Dean Goldgar wrote: > >i just bought an r1100gs and love the bike but would like to get a >throttle lock so i can rest my wrist. does anyone know of any >aftermarket products - someone told me about someone in maryland who >made "Wrist Rests" i need more info. thanks Yeah, Bob's Wrist Rest, and don't buy one. I got one at the National last year, It's pain to operate, It's a two handed deal. The locking pin that holds the black plastic piece from rotating fell out, and when I made a call to Bob's I got a snooty "tuff shit". Go for the Throttlemeister (sp?). I saw it for $100USD in Texas, (up from $90USD) and it's got 10 times the internal guts and quality. Also "sets" in the same direction of rotation as the throttle (counter clock-wise) and releases on roll off. Just grip it with the little finger side of your hand. Might have a touch better support. Wouldn't be hard to do. YMMV Mike Nolan '95 K1100LT Dallas, GA From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sun Jul 20 22:08:40 1997 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:56:33 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-Via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ To: Mike Nolan From: Mick McKinnon Subject: Re: BMW: throttle lock or cruise control Cc: Dean Goldgar , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Mick McKinnon A> >Go for the Throttlemeister (sp?). I saw it for $100USD in Texas, >(up from $90USD) and it's got 10 times the internal guts and quality. >Also "sets" in the same direction of rotation as the throttle (counter >clock-wise) and releases on roll off. Just grip it with the little finger >side >of your hand. > I'll echo everything Mike just told ya.....Go for the Throttlemiester! The guy who makes them is Del Fisher and he's in WI. 414-464-6060 "Tell him you were sent by the guy who was drooling over his K12RS at the Nats" : ) Mick _____________________________________________________________ '93 K1100LT..Quick Trips! BOOF #78 K11LT_MickNoSpam@NoSpamVnet.IBM.Com '96 R1100RT.....Twisties! MOA#57053 RA#20083 bmwmickNoSpam@NoSpamazstarnet.com Tucson, AZ / Simi Valley, CA http://www.azstarnet.com/~bmwmick/mick.htm From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Wed Aug 6 19:31:09 1997 From: "Bob Anundson" To: "Mike King" , Subject: BMW: Re: sore wrist Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:20:31 -0700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Reply-To: "Bob Anundson" X-No-Archive: yes -----Original Message----- From: Mike King To: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com >Prezes, > >And what about the Wrist Rest device. I know this has been discussed and >maybe dissed. Isn't the ThrottleMeister more highly regarded? I have a Schneider control and found it quite useful. The danger is if you go down it will hold the thottle open. I discovered this the empirical way. When I first started riding my wrist hurt after a few hours, now I never notice it even when I don't use the control screw. Regards, Bob Anundson 8768 SW Iroquois Drive Tualatin, OR 97062 bobaNoSpam@NoSpamteleport.com v 503 692 2841 f 503 692 7906 From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Thu Aug 7 23:41:46 1997 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:27:15 +0900 To: mkingNoSpam@NoSpamsirius.com From: victorNoSpam@NoSpamcats.ucsc.edu (Victor M. Kimura) Subject: BMW: Sore wrist Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: victorNoSpam@NoSpamcats.ucsc.edu (Victor M. Kimura) X-No-Archive: yes Mike King writes: >I just returned from three consecutive six-hour days touring the Northern >California/Nevada Sierras and high desert country. Beautiful trip, perfect >weather. Towards the middle of my final day crossing the Central Valley, >besides a feeling of depression, my throttle wrist/hand was getting real >uncomfortable. > >My dealer carries a BMW slotted foam grip. Has anyone used these grips? >Impressions? Looks like it would be a bit cooler than one without slots. When I bought my K75, it came with foam grips that made my hand position much more comfortable. I found that the larger grip in itself decreased the pressure on my wrist. >And what about the Wrist Rest device. I know this has been discussed and >maybe dissed. Isn't the ThrottleMeister more highly regarded? I have a Throttlemeister on the R11RT, and it works especially well on long stretches of flat roads. However, if you're traveling in hilly terrain and want to maintain the same speed, you'll have to manually adjust the throttle to compensate for uphills and downhills. This last weekend I went on a 7-hour ride on my R11RT with a new Russell saddle and driver backrest. I slabbed it in one direction, and took Highway 1 back, along the coast through Morro Bay, past Hearst Castle, and up Big Sur. What I'm discovering about wrist and forearm tension while riding a motorcycle are the following: 1. The wrist/forearm hurts the most when riding a bike that doesn't have a fairing or windscreen, as you're using your right hand, not only to throttle, but to hang on to your bike as well. Consequently, the K75 (no fairing or windscreen), even with the foam grips, makes my right hand hurt. It also makes my neck sore too from having to fight the wind. A last comment is that I now know what some list members were complaining about when they stated that Shoei Duotechs were noisy. Behind a windscreen they're not; without one, however, they whistle quite a bit. 2. If one is riding a bike with a fairing and windscreen, the wrist pressure is greatly reduced. A Throttlemeister helps, as it allows you to completely take your right hand off the handlebar or to leave it in a relaxed position atop the right grip. 3. Combining a fairing/windscreen with a driver backrest almost eliminates the need for the Throttlemeister. What I found during the 7-hour ride is that I never used the Throttlemeister except when I had to open or close the zippers on my Aerostich due to heat/fog variations. My right hand never got tired on this trip, and I have to attribute it to the addition of a Russell backrest. Victor From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Mon Aug 11 14:45:55 1997 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:06:06 +0900 To: luringNoSpam@NoSpamsover.net From: victorNoSpam@NoSpamcats.ucsc.edu (Victor M. Kimura) Subject: BMW: Address for Throttlemeister Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: victorNoSpam@NoSpamcats.ucsc.edu (Victor M. Kimura) X-No-Archive: yes Bill Luring asks: >Am looking for a source of a Throttlemeister for my R11RT- tel #, address, >dealer, or direct. Thanks Bill Luring Saxtons River, VT Bill, You can get a Throttlemeister cruise control from almost any BMW dealer. Throttlemeister's website address is: http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/throttle.htm Victor ============================================================ Victor M. Kimura Monterey Bay BMW Riders Email: victorNoSpam@NoSpamcats.ucsc.edu IBMWR BOOF #92 Santa Cruz, California LSTC #2 1997 R1100RT (Gambaru) MOA #76804 1992 K75 (Mazaru) ============================================================ "The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is uncopyrightable."