Prezzs: I've been following the discussion on the DVD theft incident. Being somewhat paranoid (I was born in Brooklyn) I've done the following to protect my stuff; Tank bag, an RKA - inserted a brass grommet (bought at ACE(tm) hardware) in the front of the bag, near the base. Ran a plastic covered cable (made up at same local ACE(tm) hardware) through the hole. One end is lopped, which is secured in place with a lead doohicky (also ACE(tm), sorry). Cable goes through loop, around handle bar, into bag; The part of the cable inside the bag has a metal collet (sp) tightly attached (also an ACE(tm) purchase). An allen head screw holds the thing in place. Easy on and off, the little wrench stays in the bag. The RKA's zippers has a small luggage lock (bought six in one blister pack, all use the same key :-) ) attached. Thus, I put my valuable (?) stuff in the bag, lock the zipper and I'm reasonably safe from most honest folk. Real thieves? Can't do much about them. I carry a disk lock in the bag for use when street parking. I made up another plastic covered cable, looped at both ends (guess where I bought it??). With this I can secure two helmets and jackets. Use the same type lock as on the tank bag (same key, 'member). Perfect? Nah. But for light fingered swine it's not too bad. And, BTW, it's real cheap insurance. Rich Rosenthal RosieNoSpam@NoSpamcapecod.net Wellfleet, MA '96 R1100R die fledermaus BMWMOA, BMWRA, IBMWR, Yankee Beemer Your paranoid 4/10ths kind of a rider Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:37:29 -0500 From: Team KBasa World HQ To: "Lee A. Dickinson" Cc: Adam Wolkoff , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com, vidiotNoSpam@NoSpamusaa.net Subject: Re: Vidiot: Re: BMW: DVD III, The Good & the Bad I've seen them with a hole cut out by the front wheel so your Kryptonite lock goes through and simultaneously locks your bike and the cover. Dave Team K-Basa Lee A. Dickinson wrote: > >Some fargin barstead decided that he needed Paul's bungie net more > >than Paul did, and took it.  This left paul with no way to get his > >gear home, since he had no bags on the bike. > >Lucky for paul, touring gadgets were still there, and another net was > >purchased. Still, it left a sour taste in our mouths. > > > >Some people just don't get it. > > People like to shop for a new bike cover at Rallys.  I have used an > unlocked bike cover all over the country only to have it lifted at Honda > Hoot.  I just ordered a custom teal colored E-Z Touring Traveller B for my > Teal/White R100GS/PD.  I am thinking hard about having an upholstery shop > sew in an eyelet for me to lock it with.  Anyone done something similar or > better.  I know that some covers come with locking eyes, but this one, > which I happen to like a lot, does not. > > Lee > > Lee A. Dickinson / '93 BMW R100GS/PD / Colbert, GA, USA > >   | BMWMOA | ASTRA 622 | HSTA 7366RG | Retreads XL+ B2786 | >   | AMA 635159 | NRA | AIChE | ad nauseum > > If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. -- ________________________________________________________________ Dave & Tina Swider                         Team K-Basa Village Idiots        Yankee Beemers       BMWRA BMWMOA                   BOOF #74          Billerica, MA ________________________________________________________________ From: "Mike Margary" To: "bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld" Subject: BMW: Ground Anchors Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:34 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: "Mike Margary" X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). Hi I've had a Taffynackles Engineering ground anchor for about five years now (bought one when they first came on the market about that time) and have found it great. Easy to install (if you take care about lining up the holes you drill in the concrete floor accurately - don't ask!) One great benefit is that the unit has a hardened steel cover over the mounting bolts (4) which is held in place by the lock/chain as it passes through the main ring. This means that the bolts can't be removed by 'unauthorised' persons (Scum?) But -when you want to move house etc, you can remove the bolts and take the whole thing with you. Good gear. Mike Margary Melbourne Australia From: bkeaheyNoSpam@NoSpamuswest.com To: Steve Masticola , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 2.6) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:51:06 MDT Subject: Re: BMW: Ground anchors for m/c security Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: bkeaheyNoSpam@NoSpamuswest.com X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). Addressed to: Steve Masticola bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com ** Reply to note from Steve Masticola Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:10:01 -0500 (EST) > The M/C Security FAQ says that 60% of bikes that get stolen are > stolen from people's homes, but only 3% of stolen bikes were > anchored. So a ground anchor would be cheap insurance. > > I'd like to make a nice ground anchor, embedded in concrete, and use > something like a hardened, corrosion resistant eye bolt, embedded in > the concrete, as the anchor point. The Security FAQ lists four suppliers > for anchor points, but they're all in England. And I'd prefer not to pay > $115 or similar for it. Does anyone have any idea You could use a big eye bolt with a couple of nets threaded on so that they are imbedded in the concrete. If the bolt is's big enough for a secure anchor, it'll probably outlast your bike before corrosion takes it out. But here's how to make it really hard for some crook to cut it out with anything less than a torch. When you imbed it in the concrete, put a paper cup on the bolt so that the eye of the bolt is inside the cup. Sink the bolt in the concrete up to the rim of the cup or the top of the eye bolt is flush with the surface of the concrete . When the concrete hardens, tear away the cup, leaving the eye of the bolt accessible, but down in a hole. Cheap, much harder to cut out, you can drive over it, and you won't trip over it. "The difference between genius and stupidity: Genius has limits." X-Sender: denx7dNoSpam@NoSpamnas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:29:01 -0800 To: bkeaheyNoSpam@NoSpamuswest.com, bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Dennis & Karen Withner Subject: Re: BMW: Ground anchors for m/c security Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Dennis & Karen Withner X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). > When you imbed it in the concrete, put a paper cup on the bolt >so that the eye of the bolt is inside the cup. Further, Use a heavy plastic coffee cup, sans handle, and U'de have a nicer looking hole that won't scrape up ur fingers when ur threading your chain or cable. Also I'd put some big washer or a piece of plate on the bolt for added pull resistance, and be sure to peen over the end of the bolt so it just can't be unscrewed ;'> Securely, Dennis (DMW) Dennis & Karen Withner - Blaine WA - "The 4th Corner" - USA Airheads Beemer Club - WA Co-Airmarshals IBMWR/non anon - MOA/anon - RA - AMA R100/7 "Educator" Carpe Beemum - Seize the Beemer X-Sender: shuberNoSpam@NoSpamitis.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:57:34 -0600 To: Steve Masticola From: Steven Huber Subject: Re: BMW: Ground anchors for m/c security Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Steven Huber X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). >I'd like to make a nice ground anchor, embedded in concrete, and use >something like a hardened, corrosion resistant eye bolt, embedded in >the concrete, as the anchor point. The Security FAQ lists four >suppliers for anchor points, but they're all in England. And I'd >prefer not to pay $115 or similar for it. Does anyone have any idea >who might supply these devices in the U.S.? Don't have the issue handy to quote name & price, but.. This month's (April?) Motorcyclist has a blurb for just such as device. Steven Huber Madison, WI shuberNoSpam@NoSpamitis.com X-Sender: jsimmondNoSpam@NoSpampop.jpl.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:24:06 -0800 To: Steven Huber , Steve Masticola From: Jeff Simmonds Subject: Re: BMW: Ground anchors for m/c security Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Jeff Simmonds X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). At 11:57 03/11/98 -0600, Steven Huber wrote: > >>I'd like to make a nice ground anchor, embedded in concrete, and use >>something like a hardened, corrosion resistant eye bolt, embedded in >>the concrete, as the anchor point. The Security FAQ lists four >>suppliers for anchor points, but they're all in England. And I'd >>prefer not to pay $115 or similar for it. Does anyone have any idea >>who might supply these devices in the U.S.? > >Don't have the issue handy to quote name & price, but.. This month's >(April?) Motorcyclist has a blurb for just such as device. > > Friend of mine took an old Kryptonite lock and embedded it in concrete pad. loop side down . He rund the front tire into the open U and locks through the rim. I believe that he also stuck a piece of pipe through the loop end subsurface to be SURE no one was going to pull it out. --------------------------- John J.(Jeff) Simmonds NASA/JPL Mail Code 306-416 4800 Oak Grove Dr Pasadena, CA 91109 818.354.4187 (Voice) 818.393.6285 (Fax) john.j.simmondsNoSpam@NoSpamjpl.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Masticola To: rnNoSpam@NoSpamcs.brown.edu, bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Subject: BMW: Ground anchors, redux Cc: masticolNoSpam@NoSpamvolvo.scr.siemens.com Sender: ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Reply-To: Steve Masticola X-No-Archive: yes X-Bmw-List: Majordomo 1.94.3 X-Web-Page: http://www.ibmwr.org/ X-Copyright: (c) IBMWR and the original author(s). Hi, all, After a little searching, I found a source for 3/4 x 18 inch drop-forged galvanized eye bolts: Barnhill Bolts 2500 Princeton NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 (800) 472-3900; (505) 884-1808; FAX: (505) 888-1559 http://www2.viaweb.com/barnhill/info.html The bolt I picked is on: http://www2.viaweb.com/barnhill/712-34-180-a6aaa-12369.html The eyes on these beasts are forged shut, so prying would not be a serious option to a thief. Cost is $25.91 per. I think they'd make a _perfect_ anchor, if you're pouring new concrete. (Many people suggested Hilti anchoring, which I really don't want or need to mess with.) I also ordered a couple of extra nuts, so I can fasten washers to hold the bolt in the concrete. I'm also planning on doing some other stuff so that turning it out won't be an option either. >:-) bkeaheyNoSpam@NoSpamuswest.com suggested that I use a paper cup to make a depression to embed the bolt in. That's a nice idea, but I think I'd have to be careful to make it so that it doesn't collect rainwater and rust the bolt or freeze and crack the concrete. Maybe a vee-shaped trench would work better on that count. HTH, - Steve Masticola MOA, DOD, MOUSE.