From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Fri May 30 09:21:39 1997 From: STIEFJBNoSpam@NoSpamSWIB.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM Date: 30 May 97 08:56:10 EDT To: Subject: BMW: Re: Running out of gas on a R65 Reply-To: STIEFJBNoSpam@NoSpamSWIB.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM About the difficulty of tipping the bike to access the "secret" reserve on the right side of the R65 gas tank: You don't have to tip the bike on its side to access the secret fuel reserve, just the gas tank, which is pretty light as the tank is almost empty. If you have not removed the tank before, it is pretty easy, especially if the tank is empty. Open the seat, reach under the tank and pivot up the ring which clamps the tank to the frame tube, then lift the tank and pull back. (In front, a slot holds the tank, hence the pulling back.) Now you can rotate the tank and transfer the fuel from the secret reserve to the regular reserve. If you look at the bottom of the tank while it is loose you will see that the secret reserve is much smaller than the normal reserve, so there wouldn't have been much point in BMW putting a petcock on that side, and if they had it would have been easy to think there was a full size reserve there. Check that the fuel line and fuel overflow line are still connected to the tank, and reassemble. Good luck, John Stiefel Madison, WI '83 R65 '83 R80RT From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Fri Jun 20 19:41:50 1997 To: hetchinsNoSpam@NoSpammontana.com Cc: flashNoSpam@NoSpammaniac.deathstar.org, bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Subject: Re: BMW: Dad Day Ride (Part 1 of 2) X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-23 From: beemerriderNoSpam@NoSpamjuno.com (Christopher S Stoddard) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:26:19 EDT Reply-To: beemerriderNoSpam@NoSpamjuno.com (Christopher S Stoddard) A usually classy guy writes: > At the moment my '86 >R65 is sitting in the garage while I am supposed to be sitting on it >and on my way to the Chief Joseph rally in Oregon and I am so pissed >off at it that I might sell it and just ride my bicycle from now on. >snip< > What started out as a bit of stumbling upon >acceleration has now, after cleaning the carbs, installing new plugs, >checking the timing, checking the plug wires, new needle valves ($7.50 >each), setting the float level, new air filter. new bowl gaskets, >turned into much more missing and stumbling plus leaking carbs. Dick: Pull off the fuel tank and trace the wires that come down from the ignition module. On my R65 ('86, azure blue) the connector to the module itself was sealed, but the spade connector farther down was not, and was corroded, causing the bike to run badly, at times. Good luck. Chris Stoddard Bloomfield Hills, Michigan From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Mon Jul 14 09:32:23 1997 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:12:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Rand Z Rasmussen To: uwe baxmann Cc: bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Subject: Re: BMW: R 65 Reply-To: Rand Z Rasmussen Dear Uwe: This is pretty common with R65s. I have heard of people replacing steering bearings, fork springs, tires, wheels--all to no avail. The one I had would not let me get above about seventy five (MPH) before going into a high-speed wobble. At that time I had a handlebar mounted windshield on it. Since I have replaced it with a frame-mounted fairing it will go right up to 100 MPH with no problems. Good luck. rand From ibmwrNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com Mon Jul 14 10:52:07 1997 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:12:35 -0700 (PDT) To: uwe baxmann , bmwmcNoSpam@NoSpamworld.std.com From: Shibumi Subject: Re: BMW: R 65 Reply-To: Shibumi At 02:27 PM 7/14/97 +0100, Uwe Baxmann wrote: >Hello. >I'm about to buy a R65 , built in 1981, from a dealer. The mashine has run >about 50000km. On a test ride, I felt a strange vibration at a speed level >of about 110 km/h. It seemed, the motorcycle started swinging to the sides >and I thought, it would run out of control. >Since I am a newcomer, I don't know, how to think about that. Are there any >experiences like this ? My dealer will make a complete service and promises, >everything will be allright then. >regards >Uwe Baxmann I've occasionally had a speed wobble in mine, though it is intermittant and infreqent. I'm a new rider and haven't ruled out rider error -- e.g., a lack of "whole body" smoothness when shifting. Seems that proper tire inflation helped. Never happens when the bike's loaded with gear when on a trip and usually doesn't happen otherwise. Left to my own divices, I'll typically cruise easily at over 110 k/mh. I'm not at all convinced that this is an R65 characteristic but you'll get other opinions on this. Ken Marrow sez the best thing he ever did to his R65 was a steering dampener for about $100 US. Sez easy to install and adjust while riding. Others will have other opinions about this. A fellow named John, of San Francisco, has established an informal internet "R65 Club" for support and info exchange. You might try posting him to get the club's address list and then post yer question to them. John is at: jbwNoSpam@NoSpamsirius.com -John __________________________________________________ John Arnold Village Idiot 83 R65 Lat44.65 Lon-123.9 BOOF# 100 'Gadfly' Central Oregon Coast BALL#1 IBMWR BMWMOA __________________________________________________ who invites us to remember: "Live by the foma that makes you brave and kind and healthy and happy." -Books of Bokonon, 1:5 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:43:31 -0800 (PST) From: David Brick Subject: Re: BMW: What to look for (R65LS) On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, JeffC wrote: > SWMBO (Mistress Lisa), is having a special birthday coming up (April)... > so I've begun my hunt for an R65LS (what a nice present!). >snip< You betcha it's a nice present! There is somewhere (anyone know the URL?) a wonderful article by Noemi Berry about the R65 series. Basically, the small-framed bikes were built from 79-84. The LS is a variant (trim, mostly) from these years. 85-97 R65 bikes were built on the standard (slightly larger) airhead frames. All airhead caveats apply, as the bikes are very close to being mechanically idential to the larger-framed and larger-engined models. Brakes upgraded in about '81, and electronic ignition also appeared that year. These earlier airheads are subject to exhaust valve recession, where the valve kinda eats away at the valve seat, until ugly mechanical things happen. Many of these older bikes have now been refitted with new-compound valve seats, which solves the problem. You might expect to see the beginning of such recession at 30K miles or a bit more. Keep an eye on the valve clearances; as long as you can adjust them, you're OK. The electrical systems are adequate (barely, by current standards), and can run an electric vest or heated grips (but not both at the same time). The battery is small, and it doesn't take too much cranking to kill it. An accessory socket and charger is a good idea in the garage. Both the standard and LS have cast wheels; get the grunge off and look for cracks. The standard wheels (at least after 81) are very sturdy; you're not apt to find cracks in them. LSs have the little Buck Rogers fairing (called by BMW a cockpit fairing), black-painted exhaust pipes, white-painted wheels (hard to keep clean, no?), narrow handlebars, and dual front disk brakes. They're otherwise identical to the standard ones. If SWMBO is a newer rider, you might reconsider and try a standard one, as the wider handlebar is a bit easier to use. Seat height of the two versions is the same. Really nice, taut handling. We've got one in the garage right now. Good luck! __________________________________________________________________________ David Brick Santa Cruz CA dbrickNoSpam@NoSpamarmory.com 96 BMW R11RSL RA MOA BOOF etc Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: JeffC Subject: Re: BMW: What to look for (R65LS) On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, David Brick wrote: > There is somewhere (anyone know the URL?) a wonderful article by Noemi > Berry about the R65 series. altavista to the rescue: http://www.roadkill.com/~davet/moto/R65.faq.html Thanks for the pointer! Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:32:45 +0000 From: "Adam Wolkoff" Subject: Re: BMW: What to look for (R65LS) > There is somewhere (anyone know the URL?) a wonderful article by > Noemi Berry about the R65 series. http://www.nebcom.com/noemi/moto/moto.html BTW, regular R65s make nice presents too! I got a 79 for my wife's birthday, and she likes it just fine! *************************************************** Adam Wolkoff Saint Paul, Minnesota http://www.visi.com/~awolkoff/FeBUTT.html